Its election time. It may not even be nine months for the Lok Sabha polls. And given the clear indication by senior BJP leaders, the TN government may not also live for long. Is the DMK under MK.Stalin prepared to face simultaneous elections and prove, which probably would be its final acid test ?
Senior leader & Union Minister Pon.Radhakrishnan, point blank termed the TN government as ‘non-functional’. And BJP President Amit Shah was more scathing. During yesterday’s meeting in Chennai, Shah said “I regret for Tamil Nadu which is the most corrupt state in the country. We will bring corruption free government in the state at all levels including Assembly, district and taluk.”
Amit Shah’s words cannot be taken lightly and he is known to speak Modi’s mind. And the speech comes on a day, when the Income Tax wound up its 3 day long searches on Christy Foods and allied companies, wherein it is alleged they had been involved in tax evasion to the tune of 3000 crores
And the raids just a couple of days before Amit Shah’s visit to TN and his calling TN government the most corrupt in the country, carries a sound message to the ruling dispensation in TN. The clock is ticking.
At the present juncture, Congress, CPI, CPM, VCK, IUML, MDMK, MMK and some fringe parties appear to be with DMK and the combine looks like a winner. But tectonic shifts taking place. With Vijayakanth’s DMDK almost routed in the previous elections and its only star leader having serious health issues, it is unlikely that DMDK is going to emerge as a potent force.
The predominant opinion among DMK cadres is that its working president MK.Stalin’s performance as an opposition leader is way below the mark. Several cadres, this author interacted with, in private agree that, Stalin is not Kalaignar Karunanidhi and they do not expect him to be a Chanakya like Karunanidhi. At the same time, they are also disappointed that Stalin is not making the right noises at the right time to ensure confidence of the people.
A veteran DMK leader reminisced about Stalin’s elevation inside the party. “Our leader Karunanidhi knew, Stalin did not have it in him to bloom as a leader. Only to ensure his son’s safe elevation, he expelled Vaiko on a false charge. Karunanidhi is a leader who will do any compromise for his family, including the party. In spite of all the protection he gave to MK.Stalin, he has failed to live up to expectations.
Before becoming Chennai Mayor in the year 1996, there was no significant contribution by Stalin to the party.” said the veteran DMK leader.
Stalin was arrested during Emergency in 1976. But, several other DMK cadres too were arrested and a few of them lost their lives during the incarceration too. But no one was rewarded with party posts like Stalin.
In 1984, Stalin contested from Thousand Lights assembly constituency unsuccessfully. He got elected from the same seat in 1989 but lost in the 1991 election due to sympathy wave following Rajiv Gandhi assassination. In 1996, he won the election and was made the Mayor of Chennai. To his credit, it was during his tenure as Mayor, several vital bridges that helps free flow of traffic today were built.
Stalin was made Youth Wing secretary of the DMK in 1984, the post which he continued to hold for 27 years. With active backing of his father, there was no turning back for Stalin. During DMK conferences while DMK leaders would deliver fiery speeches, Stalin’s speech would at the most be lukewarm.
Stalin was never a great orator and even after 40 years in politics he has failed to develop his oratorical skills, which the DMK is known for. After all, DMK is a party which came to power on oration and rhetoric alone.
The veteran continued. “In the late eighties and early nineties, Vaiko was a very powerful orator and he was able to sway the cadres. His rousing speeches enthralled the cadres and Vaiko drew huge crowds. His secret visit to Sri Lanka and meeting with LTTE Chief Prabakaran catapulted Vaiko to astronomical heights. There were several occasions on which after Vaiko’s speech, cadres would start dispersing, much to the embarrassment of DMK Chief Karunanidhi.
A shrewd Karunanidhi, sensing the imminent threat, expelled Vaiko on a fictitious charge from DMK in 1993.
After Vaiko was expelled, there was absolutely no competition for MK.Stalin inside the party. DMK leaders who had leadership ambitions, went into a shell as they realised, Karunanidhi would go to any extent for the sake of his family. Stalin was the undisputed heir apparent in DMK”, said the senior DMK veteran.
History always repeats itself. Like several sibling rivalries for power, rivalry erupted between DMK’s first siblings Alagiri and Stalin. Sent to Madurai by Karunanidhi, in the late eighties, Alagiri continued to select candidates and decided candidates for the party posts for south Tamil Nadu in the nineties.
Alagiri’s clout kept on increasing in the party DMK’s General Secretary K.Anbalagan had to officially expel Alagiri from the party in 2014. But, Alagiri, known to be a patronising leader who goes all out for his supporters, continued to hold forte in DMK down south. Madurai Thirumangalam by-election was very crucial for DMK as its alliance stitched together in 2006 was in tatters. But the Madurai strongman proved himself and presented a record win to his father and party Chief Karunanidhi. Soon, Alagiri was appointed as South Zone Organising Secretary, a post exclusively to accommodate Alagiri.
“Ever since Alagiri was accorded importance in the party, MK.Stalin started sulking” said a senior DMK leader. “He was always jealous about the importance given to Alagiri by his father and he started seeing Alagiri as a threat to himself. He always was plotting against Alagiri and Alagiri too due to his errant behaviour, paved way for his exit” added the leader.
The 2014 parliamentary polls brought the party almost under the control of MK.Stalin, though its Chief Karunanidhi was active. Stalin made most of the selections and decided on the alliances. Alagiri was enraged with Stalin being given complete control of the affairs. He was infuriated as his supporters were not given any tickets for the polls.
As Alagiri started making public statements directly and indirectly targeting MK.Stalin’s leadership, MK.Stalin made the move. He was able to convince the DMK patriarch to expel Alagiri once and for all from the party. Alagiri was expelled in March 2014 and party cadres were advised not to have any truck with him. But the issue of expulsion of Alagiri from party post remains contentious till date, as he was expelled by a mere announcement and no General Body meeting or Executive Council meeting was convinced to endorse the announcement. If Alagiri chooses to challenge the ‘so called expulsion’ he has a good case to fight.
Even during the 2016 assembly polls, it was Stalin all the way. Tickets were distributed only through his close coterie of people, which had developed strong by this time. But this was not what irked Alagiri. It was Stalin’s careful moves to install his son Udhayanidhi Stalin in key positions which had irked Alagiri.
DMK’s finances are handled by two important Trusts. One is DMK Trust and the other is Murasoli Trust. There is also another important committee, which is “Assets Protection Committee”. It is this committee which manages DMK’s assets all over Tamil Nadu worth over thousands of crores. Stalin had discreetly made Udhayanidhi Stalin a member of this Committee and also in the two trusts. Udhayanidhi was also made Managing Director of the party’s daily organ Murasoli.
After Karunanidhi became inactive, Stalin’s writ runs large across the party and any consultation process is a formality. Following total control, a coterie of his family members and yes-men took charge and any word to Stalin would only go through them.
The coterie consists of his wife Durga Stalin, son Udhayanidhi Stalin, son-in-law Sabareesan, Mahesh Poyyamozhi, Anna Nagar Karthick, OMG Sunil and of course the fund manager and perennial party-hopper EV Velu.
This coterie had taken total control of the DMK and their words are gospel for Stalin, say party insiders. Any DMK leader, whatever his stature and seniority be in the party, chooses to rub any member of this coterie on the wrong side, their future is finished, say sources.
Most of the DMK leaders and cadres have resigned to the fact that it’s a family party and Stalin is its sole heir. But their only grievance is Stalin is not able to enthuse its cadres and act as an effective opposition leader, even in the absence of Jayalalitha.
Compared to Stalin, both Edappadi Palanisamy and O.Panneerselvam are novices in politics. Their experience is far less. But, they are able to run a quite unpopular minority government without much hindrance. Stalin is not able to make them squirm, or even uncomfortable.
A senior journalist, who doesn’t wish to be named said, “After observing MK Stalin for more than a year, it appears that MK Stalin lacks leadership qualities and killing instinct. If Karunanidhi was active, he wouldn’t have allowed this illegal government to continue, if he was not successful atleast he would have made things difficult for the current dispensation with his political moves
MK Stalin is not Karunanidhi and he can never be a Karunanidhi just because he is his son. MK Stalin may have been risen within the party’s rank and file, but more than hard work the ‘acting president’ post was given to him on a platter.
He is yet to prove that he can win elections. If 2014 & 2106 election defeat was not enough for the DMK, RK election was a personal blow for MK Stalin. The defeat was so humiliating that the DMK was unable to secure a deposit. DMK blamed it on money power, but that was just a lame excuse.
Stalin has missed way too many opportunities in the current political scenario and the more MK Stalin fails it is going to be difficult for him in 2019
Stalin is unable to capitalise on the leadership vacuum in the state, he doesn’t come across as a strong leader who can take on the AIADMK. It has become very easy for EPS and OPS to handle Stalin and EPS has proved it on the floor of the TN Assembly time and again.
While TTV Dinakaran is stealing the show, MK Stalin is lagging behind. The DMK under him is not aggressive enough to take on the weak AIADMK.
MK Stalin has to rework on his approach and strategy, otherwise his dream of becoming the chief minister is just going to be a dream forever”.
The senior journalist is not exaggerating. Stalin is making all the wrong moves. With 89 MLAs, he is not able to make a lasting impact in Assembly or confront and corner the government. The Salem 8 lane project, which Edappadi Palanisamy, is too keen to thrust upon on a war footing, is a god-sent opportunity for Stalin to corner the government. Any shrewd opposition leader would have taken on a Padayatra to visit the affected farmers and listen to their grievances. But, Stalin said on the floor of the house, that he is not opposed to the project but is only insisting on ‘consent of the people’. In spite of several materials appearing continuously in various media, stressing that the proposed 8 lane project is an unwanted one, Stalin almost toes the Edappadi government’s line. But, Pattali Makkal Katchi a caste-led outfit of north Tamil Nadu, has seen a golden opportunity to nail the ADMK government in the 8 lane project and is continuing to corner the government in every possible manner. Its leader senior Ramadoss, confronts the government against this project with various inputs and statistics. His son Anbumani is about to commence a Padyatra among the affected villages.
Stalin is not even able to capitalise on the disgruntle among the ADMK MLAs, or exploit the weak minority position of the ADMK government. His reaction to many day-to-day political events are lackadaisical and delayed. Be it TTV Dinakaran or the PMK. They are very quick to grasp key issues and continue to target the government with whatever they can get.
Even in dealing with alliance partners, Stalin doesn’t have the diplomatic skills and patience to handle the partners with various demands. While the Congress is a trusted alliance partner which had never let down the DMK even during crisis, Stalin is doing everything to irritate the grand old party. His endorsing Mamta Banerjee’s third front move, can at the most be called amateurish. MK.Stalin left for London today as a personal visit. Enroute to London, Stalin should have sought an appointment with Congress President Rahul Gandhi and extended a personal visit to warm up the relationship. But, instead Stalin left for London from Chennai and deputed his MP Tiruchy Shiva to extend the invitation, which may not be taken kindly by the Congress.
What Stalin fails to perceive is, if Congress decides to ditch DMK and take TTV Dinakaran on board with PMK and left parties, the combine is capable of giving Stalin a run for his money.
The way, Stalin continues to sideline Kanimozhi, who has a good rapport with most of the leaders in the national capital is also puzzling. Kanimozhi may not be a contender for CM post and leaving her to handle the affairs in Delhi, would be a safe course for any shrewd politician. But, for Stalin except his immediate family members no one else has the knack or knowledge to handle important issues.
A sizeable chunk of women voters remain undecided whom to vote in the absence of Jayalalitha. Promoting Kanimozhi and allowing her to tour the state and meet women voters would have made the trick and at least a percentage of women voters could have been turned around. But sources say, Kanimozhi was not even allowed to visit Thoothukudi, after the May 22nd firing incident.
Stalin appears to be living in a dreamland where he is Chief Minister and his son is his deputy.
A senior IPS officer, who has been observing the DMK for over two decades, was scathing in his comments.
“Politics without principles’ is one among the seven deadly sins enumerated by Gandhiji. M.K. Stalin is doing politics without any principle.
When Tr.M.Karunanidhi has been immobilized, Stalin through his weight, created and captured the post of Executive President with much furore. But he has proved once again that leaders are not created but they evolve. He not only failed to fulfil the expectations of the cadres but also failed to imbibe confidence among public.
He became a laughing stock among senior leaders of the party when he staged a mock assembly at Arivalayam with his party colleagues. He had utterly failed to utilise the opportunity to dethrone the present government when there was a split and gave room for the cadres to compare him with his father Karunanidhi.
There is a wild talk among highly shrewd DMK cadre that he is getting a lion’s share from all the schemes being introduced and implemented by the present government such as Sterilite, green corridor, Suez water supplies, Salem Airport expansion etc, But Stalin continues to dream that the cadres are with him.
He should have learnt politics from his father, a leader unmatched to any. Unfortunately his son-in- law and a team of Media persons are guiding him. When whole State is burning, he has gone London along with his family.
Does he have any justification for holding the post of Executive President of the party which Annadurai founded? This is the question burning in the minds of leaders and cadres of DMK.
Stalin is not only spoiling the party but spoiling Tamil Nadu by being a passive supporter to all the undemocratic happenings in the State. People of the State seemed to be helpless without an opposition party to question autocratic monsters.
History is not going to be kind to Stalin. Stalin will be reduced to foot notes of history which will say, MK.Stalin replacing Karunanidhi is a classic case of “Peacock replacing Ostrich” lamented the senior cop.
The famous Italian philosopher Machiavelli said, “Its not title that honour men, but men that honour titles”.
If Stalin fails to pull up his socks and act like a true leader, he will definitely be reduced to the footnotes of history.
He swept the following Parliamentary elections in TN & is now the Chief Minister of TN. DMK won a majority in the assembly after 25 years, under Stalin’s leadership! So in hindsight, this article should now be classified as fictional 😂
I am sure that Thalapathi will plan his moves in the proper direction to make DMK victorious in the next election with active support from his cadres and his sister Kanimozhi madam.
One weakness I find with Thalapathi is that he is consistent with his opposition which I noticed in the case of SASTRA.university land
encroachment. He came out with fiery speech
initially and afterwards became silent.May be he has his one reasons.
I am sure that Thalapathi will plan his moves in the proper direction to make DMK victorious in the next election with active support from his cadres and his sister Kanimozhi madam.
One weakness I find with Thalapathi is that he is consistent with his opposition which I noticed in the case of SASTRA.university land
encroachment. He came out with fiery speech
initially and afterwards became silent.May be he has his one reasons.
Hope, he pulls up his socks, justifies his position and satisfies his dejected cadres.
Mentally ill and pro-dravidian savukku, some questions.
1) You are saying there is a wild talk among highly shrewd DMK cadre that Stalin is getting a lion’s share from all the schemes but you still think he should be next CM?
2) DMK cadres think that Stalin’s performance as an opposition leader is way below the mark and you still are depicting this article?
3) Stalin is not Kalaignar Karunanidhi and he has failed to live up to expectations. We should still support DMK and make Stalin as CM?
4) You are saying Stalin is not a great orator but a lukewarm and think Tamils should still rely on DMK/Stalin?
5) If Stalin lacks leadership qualities then why this is debated. Are you trying to push through or project Stalin as CM candidate?
6) Tell me on which grounds/qualities you still support Stalin for a CM post
7) What happened to the 2G proofs you gave to Subramanya Swamy and Gejriwal? How did DMK came clean chit? Even a mentally ill person would know there would have been some under dealings
8) Is it written in the constitution that only these 2 non-tamil parties should rule TN? You defnitely have some qualities of the politicians
9) Do you think ADMK factions (You mentioned about TTV) will get more vote share than tamil parties?
10) You are saying that you are talking to journalists and itelligence sleuths, did not one soul tell you about the growth of NTK? Why there is not even a word?
Vaiko is the better choice to lead and save DMK.
Vaiko is in direct touch with indian agencies. He is operated by RAW. Many tamils would not be surprised if he is made as next CM after the elected CM is admitted to Apollo
A rare complement to Swamy who is nothing but a blackmailer.Swamy is trying to become FM right from Chandrasekar days.He will do anything to become FM or for money.People have not forgotten his grudge against honest Ramakrishna Hegde and Raghuram Rajan.The learned friend should tell as to why Harvard University debarred him to be it’s visiting professor?Subramaniyam Swamy’s notorious anti-tamil stand is well known and his role in Chidambaram Temple restoration to Dhikshidars,preventing men belonging to all castes becoming Archagars and in stalling Sethu Samudram project are still fresh in peoples’ mind.He knows that he is unpopular in TN.That is why he has stopped contesting in MP elections in TN.Forget about becoming a good politician:first let him be a good human being
Rajan, My complements are not rare as I’m telling this for a very long time…..
YES he is qualified to become FM and the north Indian BIMARU COW DUNG brahmin lobby and people like thankless Vajpayee who betrayed Shri Advaniji were behind for his not getting his due in the INDIAN POLITICAL POWER STRUCTURE .
Ramakrishna Hegde was punished by court in his case. I was also pained when he got punished but I cannot blame SWAMY for this as he just did it through the process of law ….Hegde has to blame himself for putting himself in inviting such a case on him
He had his own points against the Stud bull. His points are proved right and more so in the time to come , it seems…
The Left based Christian and Muslim Lobby made his article on HINDU genetics of the Indian Muslims and the condition to accept that to get the voting right – WHICH IS NOT A FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT AS PER CONSTITUTION- as a big issue and portrayed him as villain and and were successful from keeping him away from Harvard. The loss is not his alone .Actually it gave INDIA a great fighter against corruption to proceed with much vigour.
HIS anti TAMIL rhetorics are against the lumpenic fringe groups who have no support with the electorate which was proved again and again in elections, and FYI you take any TAMIL rights issue he was behind it in preserving them make it mullai periyar ,etc. MUllai periyar Judgment was based on his case. JAYA proceeded further from there…
I agree to an extend on the Chidambaram Dikshitar case….Dikshitars are an arrogant lot but they soon become extinct if they continue what they currently indulge without assimilating ….
To me too he is seemingly a bit arrogant on his brahminical background…. When every other sects are so busy and proud to assert their CASTES how can we blame Dr. Swamy only which may happen just in retaliation. Without his brahminical tone I agree on the need of sanskrit with due emphasis on TAMIL of its ancientness as many honest Scholars , well many of them Brahmins too, believe Much of the texts of our nation originated in TAMIL and mostly simultaneously done in SANSKRIT too as it was our lingua franca…. The beauty is TAMIL traditions still preserve and practice them…. take temple architecture or the elaborate ceremonies associated with it…. NOTHING is there in use in SANSKRIT well HINDI belt….
All becoming archakas….it is just a gimmicks….In agama temples you need to know the agamas for which one needs to devote his entire life from childhood and it is not 9-5…and in lakhs of NON agama temples in TN NO BRAHMIN is the archaka or say PUSARI….. well… I’m not a worshipper but respect others’ right to worship.
Sethu Samudram I have / well… had evidences for and against it ….. Since TR balu and DMK were the two untrustworthies involved in it I tilted towards AGAINST…. He did the right thing of stopping it as it is not a viable as per the original unless there is some honest technical changes done in the plan…. It is like a pony scheme in its present form…
YES he is NOT that much popular and NOT unpopular as you feel…. IF there is a proper organizational back up he could have been promoted as the most viable alternative in 2014 itself when jaya was sent to JAIL .
AS he is the ONE AND ONLY person who can claim the right of sending DMK KANI and ADMK jaya and SASI on Corruption charges and who is fit to fight against corruption along with like minded people….
No one will extend complements to Swamy except you.Why the North Indian BIMARU COW DUNG Brahmin lobby has betrayed this South Indian Brahmin?On what basis you say that Indian Muslims have no voting rights?Swamy is the actual villain and not “portrayed” villain.Harvard has not lost anything by debarring him.Actually,Swamy belongs to a fringe group since he could not identify with Tamil values.Brahmins are forerunners in maintaining the caste hierarchy who were followed by other caste groups.The 206 Archagars trainees were trained in Agama Sastra in govt run schools by Agama experts.The so-called hereditary Archagars never follow Agama Sastra as highlighted by the former head priest of Tirupati.Tirupati priests are prohibited from performing yagnas for private individuals.But these priests are flying to Delhi,Mumbai to perform private yagnas.Agama Sastra never permits temples to be kept open at midnight.According to a study,many of the hereditary Archagars neither know Agama Sastra not the mantras.One cannot claim Archagarship only on the basis of his birth .How come Non brahmins and dalits are appointed as Archagars in Kerala.Why Gods in TN only will not accept these people as Archagars?On what basis,you call T R Balu and DMK as untrustworthies?Swamy did not stop Sethu project on non-viability grounds but because of his superstition.He is not trustwirthy.That is why no organization will support him.In the 2G case,charges were not proved against Kanimozhi.Swamy initially filed the DA case against Jaya.But the case was relentlessly followed by DMK only.Tuglak Cho was the only person praising Chandrasekar as PM.Likewise,you are the only person praising Swamy as the future FM.
தங்களை போன்ற பத்திரிக்கையாளர்கள் திமுக மீது மட்டும் எந்த காலத்திலும் விமர்சனம் வைப்பதில் மிக தேர்ந்தவர்கள் காங்கிரஸ் உடன் கூட்டணி வைத்தால் உடனே அதனால் லாபம் இல்லை என்பது பிஜேபி உடன் கூட்டணி வைத்தால் தங்களது கொள்கைகளை விட்டுவிட்டார்கள் என்பது தனியாக நின்றால் கட்சி தேறாது என்பது என்ன சொன்னாலும் திமுக செல்லும் பாதையில் அது தொடர்ந்து பயணிக்கும் படுந்தோல்வியையும் சந்தித்தது மிக பிரமாண்ட வெற்றியும் சுவைத்தது எந்த மாற்றமில்லை
இது எல்லாம் சரிதான்.
ஆனால் மோடி அரசாங்கம் முழுமையாக அதி மு க வை ஆதரிக்குது. காங்கிரஸ் ஆட்சியின் போது அனைத்து செய்தி தாள்களும் வார பத்திரிகைகளும் காங்கிரஸ் மற்றும் தி மு க வை கன்னா பின்னா என்று வசை பாடின.
2g போன்ற விஷயங்களை வித வித மாக தானே நேரில் பார்த்தது போல மிக மிக சுவையாக உப்பு புளி இனிப்பு மசாலா போட்டு செய்திகளை மாய்ந்து மாய்ந்து எழுதி தள்ளின. ஆனால் 550 கோடி கன்டைனர், நீதிபதி லோதா மர்ம மரணம், தமிழ்நாட்டில் இவ்வளவு ஊழல்கள், வருமான வரி சோதனைகள் நடந்து ஏராளமான வற்றை கைப்பற்றின பிறகும் மீடியாக்கள் சாதாரணமா க உப்பு சப்பில்லாமல் எழுதுகிறார்கள்.
இந்த அளவுக்கு மோடியும் மீடியாவும் இன்னமும் அதிமு க சப்போர்ட் பண்ணிக்கொண்டுதான் உள்ளனர். ஆகவே ஸ்டாலின் என்ன செய்தாலும் மோடியும் மீடியாவும் மற்றும் நீதி மன்றங்கள் தடுத்து விடுவார்கள். முக்கியமாக வாலிபால் செய்திதாள் (தினமலர்) + துக்ளக் வார பத்திரிகை.
ஏன் தினமலர்க்கு வாலிபால் என்று பெயர்? ஏனெனில் அவர்கள் வேண்டுமென்றே திமுக ஆட்சின் போது செய்த நல்ல விஷயங்களை எழுதுவது போன்று எழுதுவார்கள், பிறகு வாசகர்கள் இந்த மாதிரி வேலை செய்வதற்கு தான் அவர்களின் வேலை. என்று எழுதுவார்கள்.
An excellent article
First national….. Shah a gujju who are the masters of Bribery has no right to talk about TN as his govt itself is filled with people who promote TN corruption. Even though I prefer MODI at all india level he is a fake when it comes to TN. He is part of this filth. Everyone in his govt except Dr.Swamy behaved like J boot lickers. Sasi, they tried to control who tried to assert due to her own leadership qualities was sent to jail by the brahmin lobby. Is it a secret how this present State govt survives? Whom Shah tries to fool. EVERYONE in TN knows about its ill…. But BJP which is filled with the brokers is NOT the alternative as of now…. If Dr. Swamy takes charge let me make a reassessment. But SWAMY perai kettale modi shah jailty moothiram poiduvanga…. avaraik kandu avvlo payam.
Stalin is the same rotten rat in the ditch with lots of experience for decades only on deal making and broking . NOT in honest politics. But the cadre is a big asset which many are lacking….
Yaarume nambikkai tharalai …. wait pannuvom…
R u referring that joker swamy ??
YES…. A JOKER who never failed in putting corrupt in JAIL despite corrupt and stinking judiciary and bureaucracy …. ANY sane person who watches him will vouch for his integrity and honesty and excellent memory and intelligence….. When values of life are treated with contempt people like him , even myself and why not savukku could all be addressed as JOKERS by ”learned” people like you. …. Kovanam kattathan oorile kovanam kattiyavan payithiyakkarannu tanjavur pakkam solluvaanga…