So on the 2nd of June, 2014 ‘pehla wicket padli’ (the first wicket went down), that of one Mohsin Saikh’s – the credit going to the ‘bowling brigade’ of Dhanajay Desai.
Now who’s this Mohsin Saikh? An easily identifiable member of his community, sporting beard and wearing skullcap. And who is Dhananjay Desai? He is the chief of the “Hindu Rastra Sena,’ an offshoot of the RSS, with its motto of ‘Hinduize the politics, militarize the Hindus.’
Heard of Dr. Moonje? Dr. Balkrishna Shivram Moonje, a pioneering Hindutva proponent, was the All India President of the Hindu Mahasabha for many years, till he handed over charge to Veer Savarkar in 1937. He and Veer Savarkar, the much celebrated parivaar icon, worked together for long.
Dr. Moonje launched the Bhonsala Military School at Nashik. The school’s website solemnly declares: “Dr. Moonje, obsessed with idea of our youth in forces and civil services to uphold the integrity and sovereignty of our Motherland, landed in Nashik.
“In 1935 He established Central Hindu Military Education Society at Nashik at his age of 63 with the aim of Indianisation of Army (Indian Defence) and started ‘Bhonsala Military School’ in 1937.
“Nashik is well known and famous for legendary association with Lord Rama. It was with this background in mind that the founder named the campus of the school as Rambhoomi and the students are called “Ramdandees”- followers of Lord Rama.”
If Dr. Moonje’s ‘realization’ of the necessity of ‘Indianisation of Military and Militarisation of India’ inspired him to found the Bhonsala Military School, the same conviction made drills with basic implements like lathi compulsory in all RSS shakhas.
If students from the Bhonsala institute are regularly recruited in our army, the RSS training moulds the likes of Dhananjay Desai. And he puts his Bhonsala peers’ thoughts to better use and not waste time joining the army. After all the enemies are there inside the country too.
This man, Dhananjay Desai, has the gall to upload in the social media the warning letters issued by police to him for his inflammatory speeches and pamphlets, mocking that he gets a few thousand rupees every month selling ‘such junks.’ He is an accused in Narendra Dhabolkar murder also.
He and his team have as many as 23 cases registered against them. Since he got too enthusiastic with his cleansing project and started his work immediately on the Hindutva hero’s becoming PM, that became a bit too uncomfortable for the new ruling establishment and so has been arrested – after all the Godhra manager has been taking pains to transform himself into a sadhbhavana saint.
It might also be disturbing to be told that Dhananjay’s team has large numbers of minors with them. Poisoning of the mind starts very, very early. If their parents encourage it, we get some idea of their values.
Let us deconstruct the current case. One ‘Nehal Khan’ posted some ‘offensive’ morphed photos of Shivaji and Bal Thakarey in Osmanabad. Later that ‘Nehal Khan’ turned out to be some ‘Nikhil Tikone’. Now nobody knows why he did so. He could be a cog in the hate-mongering wheel of Hindutva. He could be someone like Devu Chodankar of Goa who got into trouble by denouncing Modi. Or he could just well be having fun.
But, for Dhanajay Deasi trained in RSS morning drills and taught that his mission is to save the ‘Hindu’ dharm, the pictures should have been no less than an affront to his ideology. So he and his brigade went on a rampage on 1st June, burning hundreds of buses and other public property. The police were happily or helplessly looking on. After all the new PM is the PM because his minions did some such and worse 12 years ago.
When people were shuddering behind closed doors as to what next, Muslims particularly, and the police were going through the motions of protecting law and order, Dhanajay Desai’s bike brigade could blithely go door to door and threaten them of worse to come if they dared challenge the Hindu order or insulted the Hindu traditions.
Next day things got uglier. Rumor mills worked overtime to claim that a statue of Shivaji had been defaced and a Hindu girl raped by a Muslim boy.
Anxious and frightened, Muslims in different parts of Pune went about garlanding statues of Shivaji and Bal Thakarey too – to demonstrate their respect and hopefully bring down the tension. But it didn’t help either. The Hindutva mobs went on vandalizing masjids and Muslim properties.
The poor Mohsin Saikh, who was on his way back from evening prayers was the first victim of the whipped up frenzy. Mohsin’s friend Ameen Saikh had to feign dead to live on and recall the hate-filled chants of the killers – ‘Dhara yala dhara, ya dadhi topi walya la dhara sodu naka yala, mara” (Catch him catch, this cap-wearing bearded man, don’t leave him, beat him).’’
Yet another person with the unfortunate Mohsin could flee too, actually they let him flee because luckily (!) he neither sported beard nor wore skull cap.
All in the face of ‘heavy’ police bandobust. Other reports say that frightened people of the locality have started shaving off beards and shunning attires identified with Muslims. What’s the degree of safety it can really provide where there are instances of unclothing people for ascertaining the identities? And what kind of society sires such socio-psychological mindspace?
Even prisons are not safe for Muslims, it turns out. Two youngsters, arrested during the Facebook-related incidents, have alleged that they were forced to shave off their beards when they were lodged at the Yerwada Jail in Pune. Abdul Sattar, one of the two, said he burst into tears while pleading with the jail wardens, but to no avail.
“We requested them to not force us to shave our beards. We need it for namaz. But they were adamant. We asked them to direct us to the right officials with whom we could discuss our case and we were mockingly made to run from pillar to post, anyway all in vain,” said a shattered Sattar .
When he pointed out to the wardens that the jail manual did not compel him to shave his beard, the wardens snapped, “Your rules will not apply here (jail).”
Jailor Yogesh Desai said he had noted the statements of the victims and called for an enquiry. He, however, dismissed the allegations of bias.
“There is a tradition in the jail that before the new entrants are produced before the senior officials, they undergo haircutting and shaving. Muslims and Sikhs are exempted from it. Sometimes some Muslims willingly choose to cut their hair to conceal their identity. The administration plays no role in this. The prison watchmen (monitors) check such things. If anyone (warden) is found guilty I have the judicial power to stop their remission,” he said.
Mr. Desai added that the two men were released the same day their beards were shaved. “They did not raise a protest when we came for the check the same day. I would have taken action had they brought the matter to my knowledge,” he claimed.
Anyway now Suresh Mathur, the Pune police chief, is reported to be mulling a ban on HRS. It might not help bring back Mohsin, still hopefully future thuggery can be averted.
But coming to think of it, can it be? When orchestrating riots has been found to be politically rewarding. There are indeed reports of sporadic violence in parts of Maharashtra, in places like Pune, Naisk, Malegoan and Aurangabad. Interestingly this time around it is about a post allegedly slighting Ambedkar, and VHP goons gone bonkers! VHP feeling hurt over the slighting of Ambedkar! Anything, anything to whip up passions. Innocent on both sides might get killed in the process, but the netas benefit after all.
Not just Godhra, even Muzzafarnagar too turned out to be a gold mine, lynch mobs and arsonists meticulously going about their assigned job, with a feckless government looking on or watching Bollywood heroines gyrate in the ruling family’s native village. Amit Shah had discharged his responsibilities efficiently, and the BJP reaped a rich electoral harvest.
Data from the Union home ministry show that states such as UP, MP, Karnataka, Rajasthan, Gujarat and Bihar saw a steady rise in communal incidents last year, and since the hate-merchants have been voted to power at the Centre.
So why would the parivaar not attempt something similar again in Maharashtra, closer to the state assembly polls?
We are all betting on their need to become ever more respectable, Modi’s particularly. But the new PM is yet to say a word denouncing the killing, though he talked big about protecting the minorities in the Lok Sabha.
Golden silence from the otherwise bombastic hindutva poster boy amounts to conveying consent to his ‘Hindu nationalist’ cronies in his signature manner, so well known an ingredient of his Gujarat model. India is poised to get ‘Gujarated’ as those memes in the social media say.
Luminaries like Sashi Tharoor and Sagarika Ghose conjure up a Modi 2.0 and a 21st century Ashoka in their goodhearted benevolence.
But then not all will benefit. Assumption such as Evil 1.0 was evil but evil 2.0 will be an angel is chimerical. Chandashok (Ashoka the evil) didn’t enjoy and capitalise on Kalinga for a decade to turn into a Bitashoka (Ashoka the repentant). It was genuine remorse.
Even the despairing highway robber Ratnakara’s chant of mara, mara (death and desolation) turned into Rama Rama, catapulting him to salvation, only because he began to chant the word that was haunting him.
So for Indians at large to be better and happier, Prime Minister Narendra Modi would have to be truly contrite. But will he ever be? Your guess is as good as mine.
(With inputs from Anvar Rajan of AISF from Pune, Azhar Khan of AISF from Jalgaon, and Narendra Puri of NewsExpress from Nagpur. Yet other Pune friends who helped me with information won’t like to be named – for obvious reasons.)
I think what you posted made a lot of sense. However,
what about this? suppose you wrote a catchier post title?
I am not saying your information is not solid., however what if you added a title that
makes people want more? I mean A remorseful Modi, anyone?
– Savukku is a little plain. You might peek at Yahoo’s home page and watch how they create article headlines to grab viewers to open the links.
You might add a related video or a pic or two to get people excited about everything’ve written. Just my opinion, it would make your blog
a little bit more interesting.
I’m amazed, I must say. Seldom do I come across a blog that’s
equally educative and interesting, and without a doubt, you have hit the nail on the
head. The issue is something that too few
people are speaking intelligently about. I’m very happy
I stumbled across this in my search for something regarding this.
But, You beleive your scriptures or not. Come on. Tell me. which scriptures you follow.Gita or Bible or Sikh or Buddhism.
I can quote many thing from your scriptures to prove you wrong. Since you are not ready to read the full context of Quran that I stated in my previous message and you are trying to spread wrong meaning from Quran which you not beleive, let me know what your knowledge from your scriptures which you beleive.
Islam is the only cult (you call it a religion) that commands to fight those who do not believe in your allah, quran and rasool.
Which is the other religion that commands to kill not having faith in their (hindus, christians, sikhs or buddhists) religion?
Galileo:
You have mentioned about the verse in Quran 9:5 where it describes about the situation in the battle field between believers and non-believers. But you deliberately not to quote the verse 9:4 where it says that peace treaty was unilaterally broken by non-believers and they initiate the war against Muslims( believes in one God) and also you not quote the verse 9:6 where it explains how to protect the asylum seekers if they want peace during the war. But instead of reading full context of chapter, you pick only one verse in between of many verses to portray Islam in bad light which shows your clear intention and bad attitude. You should know that before the advent of Islam, social life in Arabia is very bad like people are so ignorant, they kill the girl child, slavery, murder etc.
But you should read also other scriptures like In Bhagavat Gita, Chapter- 2 Lord Krishna instructed Lord Archuna to kill the enemies in the battlefield to uphold the truth even he refused to fight against his cousins.
In the Bible(Old testament),Book of Exodus Ch.22(V:18-20),Ch.32(V:27-28),Book of Numbers Ch.31(V:17-18)where it all mentioned about killing. Therefore, Every religion speaks about the killing of peoples those who against truth and teaching of God. If Islam says about killing, you people are started to divert the things against Islam, whereas purposely forget to read what written in other scriptures.
You are advised to read the Quranic verse 5:32 where it says anyone kills innocent human being un-lawfull manner, it equals to sin of killing entire humanity. Further it says in the chapter 109:5 which emphasis that there is no compulsion in religion (To you your religion, and to me my religion!.)So, You people are here to spread the hatred against Islam for your selfness without reading full context, better you should read your own scriptures first before read Quran. btw You shouldn’t reply for anything in the previous message
All the ambushes (you call it as battle) were made against innocent (bedouin) people by your pedophile rasool primarily to rob their wealth (in which your rasool’s and allah’s share is 20%), to rape their women and to sell their children in the slave market.
In the case of banu qurayza your muhammad and his thugs murdered about 900 men and boys and a woman by beheading. If a boy starts growing pubic hair, he was considered a man and beheaded. In the same night their women were raped.
The children and women were sold in the slave market for purchasing more weapons to kill more people and to rob their wealth.
Why should others believe quran and the rapist and murderer muhammad? If anyone doesn’t believe your islam and accept your rasool will you kill?
You prove by logic (without sword or terrorism) that muhammad is the best example to follow and quran is the word of god.
Now you read quran 9:5 with the following verse and then you will understand how quran and your rasool who by lust married his adopted son’s wife (daughter in law for us):
“Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Messenger have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.”
Qur’an 9:29
All the ambushes (you call it as battle) were made against innocent (bedouin) people by your pedophile rasool primarily to rob their wealth (in which your rasool’s and allah’s share is 20%), to rape their women and to sell their children in the slave market.
In the case of banu qurayza your muhammad and his thugs murdered about 900 men and boys and a woman by beheading. If a boy starts growing pubic hair, he was considered a man and beheaded. In the same night their women were raped.
The children and women were sold in the slave market for purchasing more weapons to kill more people and to rob their wealth.
Why should others believe quran and the rapist and murderer muhammad? If anyone doesn’t believe your islam and accept your rasool will you kill?
You prove by logic (without sword or terrorism) that muhammad is the best example to follow and quran is the word of god.
Now you read quran 9:5 with the following verse (quran 9:29) and then you will understand how quran and your rasool who by lust married his adopted son’s wife (daughter in law for us) promote terrorism:
“Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Messenger have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.”
When we discuss about islam, you don’t bring other scriptures into picture. Your rasool has told you that the scriptures of others are corrupted.
Galileo,
– In Gujarat, more than 2000 muslims were butchered under the watch of then hindu chief minister.
– In musaffarpur, many muslims were killed by hindu RSS
– In jarkhant,Bihar and northeastern states, many hindu innocent tribes were killed by hindu maoists. As per the record, Maoist did most of the terror attacks than any other organisation
– In srilanka, many innocent peoples including tamils were murdered by suicide attack by hindu LTTE group’
Just look above these incidents with same open mind that Was it all happened due to teaching of hindu vedas.
Tell me..
Why You relate the hand full of some incidents in muslim countries with the muslim religion. Hitler killed 6 million jews in Germany. Nobody say this is because of christian religion. On the other hand, If the same thing happen in muslim countries, they quick to relate with islamic religion.
See the minorities living in malaysia, Indonesia , bangalaedsesh and many other countries. In your crooked mind dont want to look those countries. Because you peoples always have hatred on muslims. I dot know why.
To SnakeBabu & Others,
Despite tough laws in the Islamic nations, why so much of intolerance, violence and hate towards your own religion people??. If this been the state of affairs, when happens to non-islamic countries??.
Really worried about the loss of lives in the name of religion/pride/podalangaa 🙁
The one who try to help others, serves the humanity (/God). The who who harm others for their living, they are inhuman/filth.
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Pak couple beheaded publicly for eloping
Lahore:
A newly wed couple was beheaded in full public view by the family members of the girl for marrying a ‘man of her choice’ in Pakistan’s Punjab province. According to an FIR, Muafia Bibi (23) of Satrah village of Daska tehsil, some 100km from Lahore, married Sajjad Ahmed (27) of nearby village Hasanabad on June 18.
“Muafia eloped with Sajjad on June 18 and they married in the court after her parents refused Sajjad’s proposal,” it said.
On Friday, the family of the girl came to know that the couple had returned to Hasanabad. Seven members of Muafia’s family attacked Sajjad’s house and overpowered the couple and took them to the main chowk (street) of their
village. The FIR further says: “The suspects first subjected the couple to severe torture and then tied up the legs and arms of Sajjad and Muafia. They cut off their heads with choppers in full public view and shouted that they had taught the lesson to the couple for disgracing them. None from the people gathered there dared to stop the killers.” The suspects then fled from the village.
Jamal, the victim’s relative, said Sajjad had proposed Muafia formally but her parents didn’t agree. He said that after the marriage the couple was reluctant to return to Hasanabad but a family member of Muafia told her that her parents had forgiven her. “But it turned out to be a trap,” Jamal said. PTI
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No religion teaches to kill those belonging to the other religion, except islam. No religion expect the other people to accept their god or scripture, except islam.
But your allah and your rasool (pedophile and a mass murderer) commands to kill polytheists in quran 9:5.
So far you don’t reject your quran and your rasool how can anyone be safe in the hands of muslims? How can we believe you?
/// ஈராக் உள்நாட்டுப் போரில் பாதிக்கப்பட்டுள்ள இந்தியர்களை தொடர்பு கொள்ள இயலவில்லை என வெளியுறவுத்துறை அமைச்சகம் தெரிவித்துள்ளது. ///
ஆண்களைத்தவிர பல பெண் நர்ஸ்களும் ஈராக்கில் மாட்டிக்கொண்டுள்ளனர் – இதில் பெரும்போலோர் ஹிந்துக்கள் என்பது குறிப்பிடத்தக்கது
வேடிக்கை என்னவென்றால், பல ஆயிரக்கணக்கான காபிர்கள் “உச்சி மீது வானிடிந்து வீழ்ந்தாலும் சரி, ஜிஹாதிக்களிடம் உதைவாங்கி உயிரே போனாலும் சரி”, தரித்திரியம் பிடித்த குருட்டுக்கிழவி பாரதமாதாவிடம் மட்டும் திரும்பிச்செல்ல மாட்டோமென உறுதியாக இருப்பதாக சொல்லப்படுகிறது.
இந்த காபிர்களுக்கு தேசபக்தி ஒரு கேடா?.
Sankar Started as a revolutionary exposing corruption in Judiciary & Police, now he has become an agent of America & Pakistan.
Either sankar is sold out or no more operating this domain. Web statistics shows dramatic decline in hits.
You can able to support killing a person and blaming Shankar an agent of Pakistan… It shows that you are not even human being, and turning to devils ruling myth…. Why you so worried about this website statistical data? go and support your so called medias… all malars, oneindia and so and so..
\\Why Mohammad Jalal Uddin always explore the chance of blaming Modi\\ lots of Jalal Uddins, Gopalans are out there to blame Modi for each and everything. The fact is that these so called Pseudo Secularists cannot digest the thumping victory of Modi. They are waiting for a 2002-like opportunity (and they even pray their communist Gods for that!) which will never happen under the leadership of Modi.
நான் முன்னரே கூறியது:
இஸ்லாத்தில் இருக்கும் அடிப்படைக் குறைபாடு “ஜிஹாத், ஜகத்து, காஃபிர்களைக்கொல்லுதல், தக்கியா என்ற உறவாடிக் கொல்லும் கோட்பாடு என்று குரானிலும் ஹதித்துகளாகவும் இருப்பதுவே” இவற்றை அறவே நீக்காத வரை உலகில் அமைதி நிலவ இஸ்லாமிய அடிப்படை வாதிகள் விடமாட்டார்கள். இதோ இன்னும் ஓர் அண்மைச் செய்தி அதை மீண்டும் உறுதி செய்கிறது.
QUOTE:
Al Qaeda has released a new video in Urdu calling on Muslims in the Kashmir region to follow in the footsteps of their ‘brothers’ in Iraq and Syria and launch a jihad against Indian authorities
The video, uploaded on jihadi forums by al-Qaeda’s media arm Al-Sahab, is probably the first produced by the global terror network that specifically focuses on Kashmir. Titled The war should continue: A message for Kashmir’s Muslims, the video features a statement by Maulana Asim Umar, one of al-Qaeda two Pakistani propagandists.
The video, believed to have been issued on Friday, features images of demonstrations in Jammu and Kashmir and the silhouette of an armed man juxtaposed against a purported photo of the Dal Lake.
Umar addresses Muslims living in India and Pakistan as well as the two parts of Kashmir in the video, saying they should join the The al- Qaeda video calls on Muslims in Kashmir to follow the footsteps of their ‘brothers’ in Iraq and Syria global jihadi movement seeking to re- establish an Islamic caliphate.
“Muslims the world over have picked up arms (and) are marching in the field of jihad. (Even those) who were opposed to jihad now view democracy with despondency and have chosen the path of fighting,” Umar was quoted as saying in the video by Pakistan Risk, a website that offers analysis of political and security issues.
“From the land of Afghanistan, a caravan is heading toward India. Not on the basis of someone’s directive. Not on the basis of some governmental policy. But simply on the basis of abiding by God’s command,” Umar says.
Umar claims “the flag of Islam” will fly above the Red Fort in Delhi and sermons in the city’s main mosque will be read in the caliph’s name.
He further claims the Pakistan government reneged on its “promises” to liberate Kashmir.
Referring to curbs imposed on terror groups by former military ruler Pervez Musharraf, he says, “The government imposed restrictions and the rulers of the time declared jihad impermissible.” The Pakistani establishment “sold out the Kashmiris” and made Kashmir “an old memorial” rather than an active battlefront, he says.
UNQUOTE:
இஸ்லாத்தில் இருக்கும் அடிப்படைக் குறைபாடு என்ன என்பது குறித்து நான் முன்னரே பதிந்திருக்கிறேன். ஜிஹாத், ஜகத்து, காஃபிர்களைக்கொல்லுதல், தக்கியா என்ற உறவாடிக் கொல்லும் கோட்பாடு என்று குரானிலும் ஹதித்துகளாகவும் இருப்பவற்றை அறவே நீக்காத வரை உலகில் அமைதி நிலவ இஸ்லாமிய அடிப்படை வாதிகள் விடமாட்டார்கள் என்பதைப் பதிவு செய்திருக்கிறேன். இதோ அண்மைச் செய்தி அதை மீண்டும் உறுதி செய்கிறது. இஸ்லாத்தின் அடிப்படைக் கோளாற்றைச் சரி செய்யாவிட்டால் மோடி, ஆர்.எஸ்.எஸைச் சுற்றிச் சுற்றி வந்து கும்மியடிப்பதில் எந்தப் பயனும் ஏற்படாது.
கம்யூனிசம் என்பது உண்மையிலேயே பொது நலனும் அமைதியும் சார்ந்ததாக இருந்தால் இப்படிப்பட்ட நிகழ்வுகளுக்கு எதிராகக் கருத்துக் கூறக் கூடச் செய்யாமல் கள்ள மவுனம் காப்பது ஏன்?
/// பாக்தாத்: ஈராக்கில் பயங்கரவாதிகளின் கை ஓங்கி வருகிறது. சமீபத்தில் கடத்தி சென்ற 1700 ராணுவ வீரர்களை கொத்து, கொத்தாகக சுட்டு கொன்றதாக இந்த பயங்கரவாத அமைப்பினர் டுவிட்டரில் தகவல் வெளியிட்டுள்ளனர். ஈராக்கில் அரசுக்கு எதிராக சன்னி பிரிவு முஸ்லிம் பயங்கரவாதிகள் தொடர்ந்து பல தாக்குதல்களை நடத்தி வருகின்றனர். இதில் அப்பாவி பொதுமக்களும், ராணுவ வீரர்களும் கொல்லப்பட்டு வருகின்றனர். இஷாகி நகர் மொசூல், திக்ரித், ஜலாலா, சாதியா, ஆகியன தற்போது பயங்கரவாதிகள் கட்டுப்பாட்டுக்குள் இருப்பதாக தெரிகிறது.
இந்நிலையில் சமீபத்தில் கடத்தி சென்ற ராணுவ வீரர்கள் ஆயிரத்து 700 பேரை சுட்டு கொன்றதாக அந்த அமைப்பு தெரிவித்துள்ளது. இந்த கொலைகள் திக்ரித் நகரில் நடத்தப்பட்டதாக தெரிகிறது.
இது தொடர்பான படங்களையும் டுவிட்டரில் அப்லோடு செய்துள்ளது. ஆனால் ஈராக் அரசு சந்தேகம் மட்டும் தெரிவித்துள்ளது. இதனை உறுதி செய்ய மறுத்து விட்டது.
இந்தியர்களுக்கு எச்சரிக்கை: இதற்கிடையில் இந்தியர்கள் யாரும் ஈராக் செல்ல வேண்டாம் என எச்சரித்துள்ளது. அமெரிக்க அதிபர் ஒபாமா அங்குள்ள நிலை குறித்து ஆய்ந்து கவனித்து வருவதாக அமெரிக்க பத்திரிகை வெளியிட்டுள்ள செய்தியில் குறிப்பிடப்பட்டுள்ளது. ///
முக்கியமான ஒரு விஷயம். ஈராக்கில், எந்த ஆர்.எஸ்.எஸும், மோடியும், பாப்ரி மசூதி இடிப்பும் கிடையாது.
ஹலோ டுபுக்கு, ஈராக்குல நடக்குற சண்டைய யார் இங்கு சரின்னு சொன்ன?
உலகத்தில எந்த மனித உயிரும் அற்ப காரணக்களுக்காக கொல்லப்படுவதை ஏற்க்க முடியாது.
உண்மையில் கடவுளை நம்புகின்றவன், அவனுடைய தீர்ப்பு நாளில் பதில் சொல்லியே ஆகவேண்டும்.
ஜோனாதன்,
ஈராக்குல சண்டை நட்க்குறதா யார் சொன்னா?
அட, அத இங்கே சரின்னு யாராவது சொன்னதா நான் சொன்னேனா?
அதுசரி டுபுக்கு என்பது உங்கள் பெயரா? அதை ஏன் இங்கே சொல்கிறீர்கள்?
ஈராக்குல நடக்குற பயங்கரவாதத்துக்கும் இங்கே நட்க்குற பயங்கரவாதத்துக்கும் ஒரே காரணி குரானில் இருக்கும் “காஃபிர்களைக் கொல், ஜிஹாத் நடத்து, காஃபிர்களிடம் தனி வரி(?) வசூலி, காஃபிர்கள் பலமிக்கவர்களாக இருக்கும் இடங்களில் உறவாடிக் கொல், தக்கியா எனப்படும் பசப்பு செய்து கொல் ” என்றெல்லாம் இருக்கும் கட்டளைகளே என்பதை ஆதாரங்களுடன் கூறி இருக்கிறேன். அது உங்களுக்கு ஏன் உறுத்துகிறது? அதனால் எதற்காக ஈரானில் நடப்பது சண்டை என்றும் அதை இங்கே சரி என்று சொல்லியதாக நான் சொன்னதாகவும் திசை திருப்புகிறீர்கள்?
தீர்ப்பு சொல்லும் நாள் இருக்கிறது என்பதே ஒரு நம்பிக்கைதான். அட அப்படித்தான் இருந்தாலும் அந்த நாளுக்குக் காத்திருப்பதை விட, இப்போதே குரானில் இருக்கும் அடிப்படைக் குறைபாட்டை, பிற மதத்தவரைக் கொல்வதற்கான கட்டளையை நீக்கப் போராடுவதுதான், குரல் கொடுப்பதுதான், பொதுக் கருத்தை உருவாக்குவதுதான் நல்ல சிந்தனை கொண்டவர்கள் செயலாக இருக்க முடியும். சவுக்கிடம் அதற்கான நேர்மைத் திறன் இல்லை என்பதைத்தான் சொல்கிறேன். இப்போது அது உங்களிடமும் இல்லை என்பது உங்கள் எழுத்தில் இருந்து தெரிகிறது.
சொல்லும் கருத்தில் மாற்று இருந்தால் ஆதாரத்துடன் மறுப்பதுதான் வாதம்.
மறுப்பு என்பதே திட்டுவதுதான் என்ற அடிப்படைக் கொள்கையில் இருந்து மாறி வாருங்கள் அன்பரே.
@Jonathan
The muslims claim that islam is religion of peace. OK.
Why muslims are killing muslims in Afghanistan?
Why Ahmadia muslims are killed by sunnis in Pakistan?
Why shias are killed by sunnis in Iraq?
Sunnis are killed by shias. Why?
Why there is unrest in Egypt?
What is happening in Syria?
Even idi amin is a muslim.
Why women are whipped and stoned in public in islamic countries ? Is it not barbarity?
In any of the muslim countries either there is dictatorship or large scale violence.
Please examine why there is no peace in muslim countries. Can’t you relate this with islam and its teachings?
Please read your quran and the life of Muhammad critically and with an open mind. Then you will understand yourself.
At least you read the three books by Sultana, princess of saudi.
OK Jonathan, why do you get so much agitated for a simple, straight forward comment of Anjankumar?
Islam cannot be revived as the muslims have absolute faith in muhammad and their only god allah, Muslims claim that quran is the unadulterated words of allah and all other scriptures are adulterated. They also believe that muhammad is the messenger of god.
Allah did not reveal the entire quran on a single day or in a week. It was written over a period of 23 years. So, allah revealed such wonderful messages to kill the kafir etc in instalments. During these 23 years muhammad lived in mecca and in yathrib (present medina). When muhammad was in mecca his claim that he was a messenger of allah was simply ignored by those intelligent people. they also demanded proof and miracles. the idea of single god was already there and nothing new. all the soft verses were caused to be written when muhammad was in mecca.
When his scheme did not work out (as there were only a few followers), he migrated to yathrib. the muslims claim that in mecca he was ill-treated or about to be attacked or murdered cannot be proved. Even muhammad’s abuses of meccan’s pagan faith were only reported muhammad’s uncle and their relatives. he was never beaten up.
In Medina he and his followers started ambushing the caravans (with goods and wealths) coming from syria to mecca and became successful in an ambush near badr. (in many of his earlier attempts muhammad and his thugs could not succeed in robbing the caravans). It is important that meccans also came with their people (after hearing about the news of this planned ambush) to protect the caravan. However muhammad succeeded due to the strategic positioning of his less number on his side.
From then on the allah started giving violent verses to kill kafirs etc. Muhammad did everything which a common will be afraid to do but allah sent the sanction by way of quranic verses in support of the action of muhammad. There are quranic verses in which allah threatens the quarelling wives of muhammad. After killing the kafirs allah permitted muhammad to take their wives, women, daughters and for enjoyment and sale in the slave market for purchasing weapons. There are much more.
Uthman compiled the quran after about 20 years after the death of muhammad. Uthman sent to every Muslim province one copy of what they had copied, and ordered that all the other Qur’anic materials, whether written in fragmentary manuscripts or whole copies, be burnt. Zayd bin Thabit added, “A Verse from Surat Ahzab was missed by me when we copied the Qur’an and I used to hear Allah’s Apostle reciting it. So we searched for it and found it with Khuzaima bin Thabit Al-Ansari.
What else were missed or what else were added are know only to their allah.
However, any attempt to revise the quran is violently viewed by muslims. Please see the case of the poor woman, Taslima nasreen. She is running from country to country to safeguard herself from islamic fundamentalists.
Savukku Shankar,
As correctly pointed out by another reader, you are unique in your efforts to bring out corruption and in stopping the looting of public wealth, example, stopping the housing plots/flats being sold to top IAS/IPS Government officers at a lower price than the market price by TNHB. There are dime-a-dozen sites for publishing these kinds of articles aimed at Modi or RSS or BJP or VHP. But there is not many who take up causes like you took up in the past. The Mahalakshmi episode was an individual issue. It was only because there was not much of public interest involved in that issue, you have found yourself to be in slippery ground. Mr T.N.Gopalan is well experienced and he pointed this out and is guiding you well to come out of that mess. But, Mr Gopalan and the like of him have an agenda set for themselves long ago, which agenda had never been your agenda. Their agenda is communist oriented, whereas your agenda had been public interest oriented. Mr Gopalan might take offense querying as to whether these two are different! Sadly and truly, yes, these two are patently different at least in Indian context, from our own past experience. In certain aspects of life the Communists have a closed mind and that is the spot where they get derailed from the path of public interest.
Please do not fall into their hands and start singing their tunes and in the process you are getting derailed in your established path of fight for justice and against corruption.
The Muslims like Mohammed Jalaluddin, will be friendly with you when it comes to modi-baiting. When abject terrorism is let out by the hands of Jihadis like Lashkar-e-Toiba, Talibans, Al-Umma and their different formats, these Muslims will keep quiet as though nothing ever happened anywhere around them.
I wanted to give an example as to where the communists lose sight of public interest. It is well known that the auto rickshaws were charging around Rs 22 to Rs 24 per km, while even the air-conditioned tourist taxis and call taxis were charging less than Rs 12 per km. They never used the meters. The recent regulations were the outcome of public interest suits filed upto the level of Supreme Court. The charges were fixed at Rs 12 per km. Yet, the autorickshaws are not using the meter at most places and are still fleecing the public.
If the Communists were public interest oriented, they must never support these autorickshaws who flout law and fleece public.
On Wednessday, the autorickshaws have planned to go on agitation path, strikes and what not. CITU and other communist Unions and organisations are sure to support the autos. For them the TRADE UNION activity is primary and NOT PUBLIC INTEREST.
For the riots in Gujarat in 2002, till date the Communists, Media, and the terror-loving Muslims blame Modi as he headed the State Government, although the Supreme Court’s SIT exonerated him. But now, the riots are taking place in Maharashtra, the State Government is headed by Congress Party’s Prithviraj Chauhan. Instead of placing him accountable, all these are again blaming Modi ! Perhaps, the communists, Media and the terror-loving Muslims love double standards next only to terrorism.
Supreme Court may acquitted him, but in God’s court he can’t escape. Why him? you too, supporting killing innocents. You can able to complain Iraq, if someone does same on Gujarat issue then they are ‘terror-loving’ ? You are paid to write on portals without knowing the fact and believe.
நாஜி
உங்களுக்குப் பொருத்தமான பெயரைத்தான் தேர்ந்தெடுத்திருக்கிறீர்கள்.
மோடி கிடக்கட்டும், மோடியின் வயது அதிக பட்சம் நூறுதான் அதிலும் 64 போய் விட்டது. ஆனால் குரான் ஆயிரத்து முன்னூறு வருஷங்களாக இருந்து கொண்டு மனித சமுதாயத்தில் முஸ்லிம் அல்லாதவர்களைக் கொல் என்று போதித்து பல இனப்படுகொலைகளை நடத்தியாகி விட்டது. இன்னமும் நடத்துவதற்குக் காரணியாக உள்ளது. அதைப் பற்றிக் கொஞ்சமாவது பேசுங்கள். அதை எப்படி நீக்குவது என்பது குறித்து விவாதியுங்கள். ஏனெனில் இன்னும் பல ஆயிரம் ஆண்டுகளுக்கு இனப் படுகொலைகள் நிகழாது காக்கும் பொறுப்பு நம் எல்லாருக்கும் இருக்கிறது. அதற்கான முயற்சிகளைத்தொடர்ந்து செய்து வந்தால்தான் மனித சமுதாயம் அமைதியான வாழ்வை என்றாவது பெற முடியும்.
எனவே மோடி என்ற ஒரு மனிதரை விடவும் குரானில் உள்ள முஸ்லிம் அல்லாதவரையும் பிறமதத்தாரையும் கொல்வதற்கான கட்டளை உலக அமைதிக்கு மிகவும் ஆபத்தானது. இதைக் கவனிப்பது மிகவும் அவசரமானதும், அவசியமானதும் ஆகும்.
நாஜியாகவும், இனப்படுகொலையைப் போதிக்கும் காஜியாகவும் இல்லாமல், அமைதிக்குப் பாடுபடும் மனிதனாக மாறுங்கள்.
Agreed that such vandalism irrespective of religion/cast should not be retorted to and not cause violence/fear and hatred among fellow citizens. This is condemnable without any doubt. Really feel sorry for the young boy who fell victim of this unmindful and unlawful violence. But why blame Modi for this? When riots happened in GJ in 2002 then it was a problem of state (not center) and Modi is being blamed until now. But now, Maharastra is ruled by Cong and even for this Pune incident you want to blame the center (not state) because Modi is the PM. Come on guys remove the colored glasses and start seeing everything from a neutral perspective. That will help everyone to live in unbiased society.
இதை எல்லாம் எழுத எதற்கு சவுக்கு என்ற பெயர்?
அதற்கு ஆயிரம் தளம் இருக்கிறதே?
யார் விரும்பினாலும் விரும்பாவிட்டாலும் மோதி இப்போது பிரதமர்.இன்னும் பத்து வருடங்களுக்கும் அவர்தான் என்று அனைவரும் ஒத்துக் கொண்டிருக்கிற நேரத்தில், மாற்றத்தை விரும்புகிற, சுர்றிலும் நடக்கிற அநியாயங்களை தோலுறிக்க, ஆதாரங்களுடன் வழக்குத் தொடுக்க, ஒத்த சிந்தனை உள்ள நண்பர்களை ஒருங்கிணைத்து செயல் பட வேண்டிய கடமை சவுக்குக்கு இருக்கிறது. அப்படித் தான் சவுக்கும் இருந்தது.
அதுதான் சவுக்கின் அடையாளம்.Strong Hold. இப்போது தேசிய அளவில் உள்ள கருத்து/விவாதங்களைத் தமிழில் தர வேறு எதாவது ஒரு தளத்தை உபயோகித்துக் கொள்ளுங்கள்.
I am very happy that Hindutva terrorists are pushing India for a final partition – May Allah bless Muslims with PAKISTAN-2 before 2019.
வடகிழக்கு இந்தியாவின் 6 மாநிலங்களையும் ஒன்றிணைத்து ஜீஸஸ்தானாக அறிவிக்க அமெரிக்கா மனது வைத்தால் முடியும் – காலந்தாழ்த்தாமல், அமெரிக்காவின் கவனத்துக்கு இந்த விஷயத்தை எடுத்துச் செல்ல வேண்டிய அவசியமும் அவசரமும் கிருத்துவ சமுதாயத்துக்கு வந்துவிட்டது. அல்லேலூயா
munnadi honghong ipoo amercia.. avanga size ivarukku romba pudikkum pola. I mean life style size
Hello Ms/Mr Vijaya Ramachandran, u know even till today the so called model gujarati PM have not spoken a single word about pune incident- y
Law and order is a state subject. The state government should handle the issue as per law.
yeah We need to learn from gujarat model how to solve riots hpd in 2002!
Why Mohammad Jalal Uddin always explore the chance of blaming Modi…not liking anymore…Let the criticism comes within…Not someone who have prejudice