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  1. Cathleen says:

    PKR tu apa bendanya?PARTI KIAN RUNTUHPARTI KIAN REMUKPARTI KUMPULAN RASUAHPARTI KENCING RAKYATPARTI KELENTONG RAKYATPARTI KUAT RASUAHPARTI KUMPULAN RASUAH. DAP?DALANG ANASIR PEASTRK.PAS?PAROI ANGGUK SAJA.Ada bantahan??

  2. Lisa says:

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  3. Thamizhventhen says:

    Please change head line title name like “AA Arachil thalivaral thazhum thamizhgam”

  4. melwin says:

    சவுக்கு கட்டுரைக்கு சம்பந்தமே இல்லாத கருத்துக்களை நீக்குங்கள்… மதபிரச்சனைகளை தேவையில்லாம் தூண்டிவிடும் கருத்தகளை தயவு செய்து பிளாக் செய்யுங்கள்…

    மத சண்டை போடும் ஈனப்பிறவிகளே… நீங்கள் புதியதாக ஓரு தளம் தொடங்கி அதிலே சண்டையிடுங்கள்

  5. Thuglaq says:

    HALAL that which is allowed as per Islamic law, given in the Qur’an and the Sunna. Commonly refers to that which is lawful and permissible to use or consume within Islam. That which is prohibited is HARAM. However, there are different interpretations and reports, so that different schools have different lists of halal/harm.

    It is haram to marry an adult pagan woman but halal to marry an underage Muslim child.

    It is haram to steal an egg from a Muslim, punishable by cutting hands and feet, but halal to rob non Muslim’s commercial caravans, rewarded by share of the booty.

    It is haram to slaughter an animal in a name other than God but halal to slaughter a human being in the name of God.

    It is haram to befriend a Jew or a Christian but halal to kill them and sleep with their wives and daughters.

    It is haram to watch television but halal to watch beheadings and stoning.

    It is haram for a woman even to show her face to a namahram man but halal for a man to disrobe and inspect a namahram woman before buying her in a slave market.

    It is haram to buy mortgage to acquire a house for your family but halal to buy a woman from a slave market to sleep with her.

    It is haram to trade alcohol but halal to trade human beings.

    It is haram to listen to music but halal to listen to wailing of innocent women and children of the beheaded critics and apostates.

    It is haram to see a movie but halal to kill an infidel.

    It is haram to bet on a horse for entertainment but halal to steal a horse from an infidel for a living.

    It is haram for a woman to have more than one husband but halal for a husband to have more than one wife.

    It is haram for a husband to hurt his wife by treating other wives better, but halal for him to hurt them all by acquiring and sleeping with unlimited slaves and captive women.

    It is haram for a wife to refuse her husband even on a camels back but halal for a husband to beat her up with a lash and green stick if she refuses him.

    It is haram to even break the heart of a single innocent person if he is Muslim, but halal to behead all the innocent men of a community and sell their innocent women and children in slavery if they are non Muslims.

    It is haram to attack and and injure enemy women but halal to enslave and rape them.

    It is halal to stone a woman by burying her in a hole dug to her shoulders to maintain her “hijab” but haram to stone her on a flat ground and risk her “hijab”.

    It is halal to let young grils burn in fire but haram to rescue them if they do not have hijab.

    Whatever the innocent prophet finds beneficial and worthy to himself and his tribe (lust, greed, slavery, wife beating, stealing) is Halal and if other tribes/religions do it to him or his tribe its Haram.

    Another Holy Book say’s “Everything is permissable” – but not everything is beneficial. “Everything is permissable” – but not everything is constructive. Nobody should seek his own good, but the good of others. Halal and Haram is not exclusive to Islam alone.

    • Learner says:

      What Thuglaq has written is correct.

      You read your hadiths. If you want proofs, the proofs are available in your hadiths written by your islamic scholars.

    • Thuglaq says:

      In 2010, there was the case of 12-year-old Fatima of Saudi Arabia, who had been sold in marriage to a 50 year old man who already had a wife and ten children. As her male guardian, Fatima’s father had the sole right under Saudi law to marry her off at any age to whomever he pleased. In a remarkable challenge to social norms, however, Fatima escaped to her family home six months after the marriage, refusing to return to her husband and demanding a divorce. With the help of her uncle and support from the international community, she was finally granted a divorce in February 2013.

      In 2011, Saudi Arabia’s Justice Ministry wanted to pass a law that set a minimum age to marry since many young girls are forced to marry much older men. The ministry submitted a study about the “negative psychological and social effects of underage marriages” to religious scholars and “requested a fatwa.” However, the scholars never responded. Saudi Arabia Grand Mufti Shaikh Abdul Aziz Al Shaikh announced there is “nothing wrong” with girls under the age of 15 getting married. “There is currently no intention to discuss the issue,” he said.

      How is it that Saudi Arabia still allows child marriage when they’ve known Aisha’s real age all along (the biographies referenced are written in Arabic), or that Pakistan’s rape laws cleave to British colonial precedent? In Pakistan, a woman can be punished for being raped if the rapist denies her claims. But when the innocent prophet was faced with a woman who told him she’d been raped, he had the man in question executed on the testimony of the woman, whom he pronounced blameless, alone.

      Pakistan’s top constitutional body responsible for giving legal advice to the legislature on Islamic issues has said Islam doesn’t prohibit underage marriage (Nikkah) – but consummation of marriage (Rukhsati) is allowed only when the couple – both husband and wife – reaches puberty. The decree came at the end of a two-day meeting of the Council of Islamic Ideology (CII) on Tuesday. CII Chairman Maulana Muhammad Khan Sheerani presided over the session. The council suggested removal of a clause in the Child Marriages Restriction Act 1929 that prohibits a child from going against the will of his/her father and maternal grandfather, who have arranged an underage marriage for him/her. CII members suggested that after reaching puberty, the child should have the right to undo the decision of his/her father and grandfather on underage marriage. Under the 1929 marriage laws, a couple can defy their underage marriage if it is contracted by their relatives, but they cannot go against the decision of their fathers and maternal grandfathers.

      The simple truth is that all the religious scholars and innocent messengers since Religion began have been human, limited by the human ability to pander, avoid conflict by bowing to popular opinion, or make mistakes. And when the messengers or scholars fail their sacred trust, to transmit their religion with fidelity, they lose their right to any authority, religious, social or otherwise, and frankly, it’s up to the rest of us the people to do a better job of keeping them honest and sane.

    • Indian says:

      Sharia is islamic law or saudi law ? Too much confusion. If quran is from god why you people should follow hadhis as it is not from god and from a human being. Something is fishy

  6. Anonymous says:

    “இஸ்லாமிய விவாதம்” என்று ஒரு தனிப்பக்கத்தை சவுக்கு உருவாக்கி கொடுத்தால், நானும் ஹிந்துத்வ வெறிப்பிடித்த காபிர்களும் விவாதம் செய்ய வசதியாய் இருக்கும். இப்படி சம்பந்தமில்லாத இடத்தில் வந்து பேச வேண்டிய அவசியமிருக்காது. நன்றி.

  7. truth says:

    Ada arabotha nayae… sambatham sambatham illama eenda pinathura

  8. Muralidharan says:

    Dear Mr. Brahma Puthran,

    Good wishes…

    I thank you for expressing your feelings and views. Only those who can analyse and think can express this way. Again, I observe that many Hindus, Christians and Muslims live in peace in almost all the places in India. If we think precisely, except Nepal and some parts of East Africa like Tanzania, the people always live with a feeling of fear. What I would like to say is, leave alone the selfish political leaders and religious protagonists. I can surely tell you that there is NO differences among the people. They like and wish living in peace and harmony. I have many friends who belong to ISLAM and CHRISTIANITY. We have absolutely NO differences. We like each other as human. You may have disturbed by some one in particular. I feel sorry for that.

    Kindly tell me how to put my views here, in Tamil.

    • Muralidharan says:

      Thank you, Mr. Brahma Puthran,

      I shall hereafter try that link and write in Tamil. I just wanted respond you immediately, so this is in English.

      Your reply shows that you respect and honour good aspects. GOD, in any form, be with you. IN SHAH ALLAH!

    • Muralidharan says:

      திரு பிரம்ம புத்ரன் அவர்களே, ஏதோ ஒரு சாபக்கேடு நம் நாட்டு மக்களை அலைக்கழித்து வருகிறது. இந்தியன் என்ற ஒரு உணர்வுக்குக் கட்டுப்பட்ட எவரும் மத, ஜாதி, மொழி பேதங்களை மனதால் கூட நினைப்பதில்லை. அரசியல்வாதிகளின் தன்னலமும் பேராசையும், பிரித்தாளும் சூழ்ச்சியும்தான் மக்களை பாதிக்கிறது. வரிசையில் நின்று ஓட்டு போடும் நம்மை, நம்மால் பதவிக்கு வந்தவர்களே ஏய்க்கும் நிலை இந்தியாவில் நிலவுகிறது. உண்மையாய், உறுதியாய், நிச்சயமாய், மக்களிடையே பேதமில்லை பிரம்மபுத்ரன் அவர்களே. நாம் ஒருவருடன் ஒருவர் விவாதிக்கும் ஒவ்வொரு நிமிடமும் சுயல அரசியல்வாதிகளுக்கு சாதகம்தான். மக்கள் அடித்துக் கொண்டு பகை கொண்டு வேதனைப்பட்டு சாக வேண்டும் என்பதே ஒவ்வொரு அரசியல்வாதியின் பேராசை. வாழ்க மனித ஒற்றுமை. வளர்க மத நல்லிணக்கம்.

    • Muralidharan says:

      திரு ப்ரம்ம புத்ரன் அவர்களுக்கு,

      தாங்கள் குறிப்பிட்ட இணையத் தொடர்பின் உதவியுடன் தமிழில் என் கருத்தைத் தெரிவிக்க முடிந்தது.

      தவிர, ‘அசத்திட்டேள், சபாஷ்’ என்று உங்கள் பதிலில் குறிப்பிட்டிருந்தீர்கள்.

      நன்றி. ஒற்றுமை ஓங்குக. நற்கருத்துக்கள் பகிர தங்களை தாழ்மையுடன் வேண்டுகிறேன்.

  9. Senthil says:

    Please don’t bring religious views or topics here. You are not only distracting or misleading the Article’s moto here but also creating a fight between people.

    • Senthil says:

      if your real concern is spreading Islam for good reasons I will appreciate it but this is not the place to do it and the way too, Please realize what impacts you are making with Hindu people. by reading your comments any Hindu will make friendly move with muslims? dont you think you are creating enemity between people?? Your comments would make changes in TN? (infact none of us comment here) but atleast it should not critisize other religion sentiments. you must be a part of ant-muslim group. only such people look for a way to create problems between ppl. if you are really born to one Mother, don’t use Islam to damage it which is totally UNACCEPTABLE

    • Indian says:

      Dubai is also muslim country. What ever you say here all are permitted there. Go there and shout.

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  11. david bill says:

    brahma putiran,,, first try to become a human then be a muslim,,you speak of cleanliness, what kinda of man grows that ugly filthy unclean beard shows how unhygienic your muslim world lives in,,, , your fake comic god and your pedophile prohphet are a farce,,look how islam was born,,, A flying creature fly from sky and talk to a man for years and no one else saw that flying creature that you call angel gabriel!! why do not that creature visit all around the world and say i have given the god message to this man you all go get from him….!!!! because such flying creture really never existed fools,,, it is a cunning man mohammed’s imagination to satisfy his lust,, he s , a man who rapes a 9 year old girl creates a religion with barbaric followers like you.. and your wanna convert our land into pigland.. run to your wahabi lands,,, what a religion you are spreading, ,, A man can marry 4 women!!! if a women gets raped and if she complanits about it she will be killed by stoning!!! and in all lyour arab nations muslims women are used by their family members and they fear telling it open fearing death according to ill-natured shiariat laws!!!! shariat s a law by speaking animals(mohammed followers) for the animals and of the animals….. still more if you kill innocent people including children, women you will be given heaven with unlimited boooze and sex..What kinda religion is this!!! you wahabis are sub-humans,, actually people are leaving islam but they fear killing if they openly say that. due to your shariat laws….Once your oil repositories drain then in arab world mullahs will start eating each other which they eventual. There is no need to destroy islam,.IT will perish from inside from nitwit mullahs like you….long live israel……

    • Anonymous says:

      // A man can marry 4 women!!! //
      —–

      நான்கு மணைவிகள் வரை பலதார திருமனத்தை ஷரியா சட்டம் ஏன் அனுமதிக்கிறது?

      ஹிந்துமத சட்டம் ஒருவனுக்கு ஒரு மணைவிதான் என்று சொல்கிறது. ஆனால் எவ்வளவு வப்பாட்டிகள் வேண்டுமானாலும் வைத்துக் கொள்ளலாம், வப்பாட்டிக்குப் பிறந்த குழந்தைகளுக்கு சொத்தில் பங்கு கிடையாது என சொல்கிறது. இது நியாயமா?

      ஆனால் கண்ணன் முருகன் போன்ற ஹிந்து தெய்வங்களுக்கு ஒன்றுக்கும் மேற்பட்ட மணைவிகளுண்டு என்பது வேறு விஷயம்.

      ஷரியா சட்டம், ஒரு ஆண் வசதியும் தேவையுமிருந்தால் நான்கு மணைவிகள் வரை திருமணம் செய்து கொள்ளலாம். அனைத்து மணைவிகளுக்கும் அவர்களுடைய குழந்தைகளுக்கும் சொத்தில் சமபங்கு உண்டு என அறிவிக்கிறது.

      பலதார மணத்தின் அவசியமென்ன?:

      முதல் மணைவி உடல்நலக்குறைவால், இல்லற வாழ்க்கைக்கையில் ஈடுபட முடியாத நிலையிலிருக்கலாம். ஆனால் கணவனுக்கு இல்லற வாழ்க்கையின் அவசியமும் இன்னொரு மணைவியை வைத்துக் காப்பாற்றும் வசதியுமிருக்கிறது. இந்த சூழலில் ஒரு இளம்வயது விதவைப்பெண்ணையோ அல்லது ஒரு ஏழைப்பெணையோ மணமுடிக்கலாம். இதன் மூலம் இந்த பெண்களுக்கு வழிதவறி போகாமல் ஒரு நல்ல வாழ்க்கை கிடைக்கிறது.

      வரதட்சனை கொடுமையால் பல நல்ல குடும்பத்து பெண்கள் திருமணமாகாமல் அவதியுறுகின்றனர். வசதியும் தேவையுமுள்ள ஆண்கள் இவர்களை இரண்டாம் தாரமாக திருமணம் செய்தால், வரதட்சணைக் கொடுமை ஒழிந்துவிடும்.

      • Thuglaq says:

        Mohammed married 15 women and consummated his marriages with 13. (al-Tabari vol.9 p.126-127). So is everyone expected to marry 15 times that is one for wealth (first widow), one for social welfare, one for divine revelation, one for slavery and so on. It isn’t necessary for a lawgiver to institute laws by performing actions that create a precedent. In other words, Muhammad is not required to marry a young girl in order establish a law about marrying girls who had reached puberty. Muhammad, as Islam’s lawgiver, could have simply issued a decree. For instance, Muhammad allowed husbands to beat their wives. Was it necessary for Muhammad to beat his wives in order to establish this as a law? Certainly not. Similarly, when a lawmaker says that killing someone in self-defense is acceptable, no one argues that the lawmaker must go out and kill someone in self-defense if his law is to stand. Hence, the argument that Muhammad needed to marry several women to establish a precedent or marry a young girl to establish puberty as the appropriate age for marriage completely fails.

        Finally, the Quranic justification given for Muhammad marrying his adopted son’s divorcee fairs no better. The Quran in Surah 33:37 says that Muhammad was to set a practical example for others that marrying their adopted son’s divorcees is not a sin. All the innocent prophet needed to do was to claim that Allah had made it lawful for adoptive fathers to marry their adopted children’s divorcees but since he did it for his lust you can never blame him.

    • Thuglaq says:

      Saddened Innocent prophet

      Sahih Bukhari 7.18
      Narrated ‘Ursa: The Prophet asked Abu Bakr for ‘Aisha’s hand in marriage. Abu Bakr said “But I am your brother.” The Prophet said, “You are my brother in Allah’s religion and His Book, but she (Aisha) is lawful for me to marry.” Abu Bakr and Muhammad had pledged to each other to be brothers. So according to their customs Ayesha was supposed to be like a niece to the Holy Prophet.

      But the innocent Prophet would use the same excuse to reject a woman he did not like.

      Sahih Bukhari V.7, B62, N. 37
      Narrated Ibn ‘Abbas: It was said to the Prophet, “Won’t you marry the daughter of Hamza?” He said, “She is my foster niece (brother’s daughter). ”

      Hamza and Abu Bakr both were the foster brothers of Muhammad. But Ayesha must have been too pretty for the Prophet to abide by the codes of ethics and custom.

      In the following Hadith he confided to Ahesha that he had dreamed of her before soliciting her from her father.

      Sahih Bukhari 9.140
      Narrated ‘Aisha:
      Allah’s innocent Apostle said to me, “You were shown to me twice (in my dream) before I married you. I saw an angel carrying you in a silken piece of cloth, and I said to him, ‘Uncover (her),’ and behold, it was you. I said (to myself), ‘If this is from Allah, then it must happen.

      After the daily Asr prayer, Innocent Muhammad would visit each of his wives’ apartments to inquire about their well-being. Innocent Muhammad was just in the amount of time he spent with them and attention he gave to them. Once, Muhammad’s fifth wife, Zaynab bint Jahsh, received some honey from a relative which Muhammad took a particular liking to. As a result, every time Zaynab offered some of this honey to him he would spend a longer time in her apartment. This did not sit well with Aisha and Hafsa bint Umar.

      Hafsa and Aisha decided that when the Prophet entered upon either of them, they would say, “I smell in you the bad smell of Maghafir (a bad smelling raisin). Have you eaten Maghafir?” When he entered upon one of us, she said that to him. He replied (to her), “No, but I have drunk honey in the house of Zainab bint Jahsh, and I will never drink it again.”…”But I have drunk honey.” Hisham said: It also meant his saying, “I will not drink anymore, and I have taken an oath, so do not inform anybody of that’. Soon after this event, Muhammad reported that he had received a revelation in which he was told that he could eat anything permitted by God.

      Word spread to the small Muslim community that Muhammad’s wives were speaking sharply to him and conspiring against him. Muhammad, saddened and upset, separated from his wives for a month. ‘Umar, Hafsa’s father, scolded his daughter and also spoke to Muhammad of the matter. By the end of this time, his wives were humbled; they agreed to “speak correct and courteous words” and to focus on the afterlife.

      Sahih al-Bukhari Volume 8, Book 78, Number 682
      Sahih al-Bukhari 3:43:648

    • Learner says:

      “பருவமடைந்த ஒரு ஆணும் பெண்ணும் திருமணம் செய்து வாழலாம்” என அல்லாஹ் திருக்குரானில் சொல்கிறான்.

      When Muhammad married Aisha she was six years old only. First standard girl playing with dolls.

      Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64

      Narrated ‘Aisha:
      that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).

      Some Muslims claim that it was Abu Bakr who approached Muhammad asking him to marry his daughter. This is of course not true and here is the proof.

      Sahih Bukhari 7.18

      Narrated ‘Ursa:
      The Prophet asked Abu Bakr for ‘Aisha’s hand in marriage. Abu Bakr said “But I am your brother.” The Prophet said, “You are my brother in Allah’s religion and His Book, but she (Aisha) is lawful for me to marry.”

      Moral relativist Prophet would use the same excuse to reject a woman he did not like.

      Sahih Bukhari V.7, B62, N. 37
      Narrated Ibn ‘Abbas:

      It was said to the Prophet, “Won’t you marry the daughter of Hamza?” He said, “She is my foster niece (brother’s daughter). ”

      Hamza and Abu Bakr both were the foster brothers of Muhammad. But Ayesha must have been too pretty for the Prophet to abide by the codes of ethics and custom.

      This is called double standard. Child marriage.

      9 வயதுப் பெண்ணை திருமணம் செய்வது குற்றம் என்று 1400 வருடங்களுக்கு முன்பு அரேபியாவில் சட்டம் இருந்திருந்தால், அனைவரும் எதிர்த்திருப்பர்.

      Therefore your islam is suitable for that period only and not now. But even now in your islamic country a man of any age can marry a girl child. You can read Khomeini’s explanations also.

      • Learner says:

        ஏதோ ஒரு பேரழிவால் இந்தியாவின் மக்கள் தொகை திடீரென்று 90 சதவீதம் குறைந்துவிட்டது, அப்பொழுது நமக்கு 60 வயது என்று வைத்துக்கொள்வோம். நிச்சயமாக நீங்களும் நானும் பருவமடைந்த 9 வயது பெண்ணை மணமுடித்து இனவிருத்தி செய்வோம்.

        What was that catastrophe at that time that forced Muhammad to marry that (first standard) girl of 6 years who was playing with the dolls?

        In any event, I don’t have that madness to marry a 6 year old girl. You will do anything as per your islamic brought up.

        அன்றைய காலகட்டம் வேறு, இன்றைய காலகட்டம் வேறு.

        This is our point.
        But you muslims are still holding your sharia law to marry child girls, beating women in public with canes, stoning women to death and many more. You have not left those barbarities.
        What is a crime in a democratic country is your law in islamic countries.
        Others have evolved and you muslims are still in your Muhammad’s time, 1400 years back.

      • Learner says:

        What was that catastrophe at that time that forced Muhammad to marry that (first standard) girl of 6 years who was playing with the dolls?

        For my above question, you have given the reply without an effort to understand the question.

        Is it lesser population that prompted your Muhammad to marry that first standard girl? How many sons and girls were born to that girl?

        You are amazing!!!

      • Learner says:

        When you are an ardent separatist as per your islamic brought up, you don’t have the right to blame others.

      • Learner says:

        What was that catastrophe at that time that forced Muhammad to marry that (first standard) girl of 6 years who was playing with the dolls?

        You understand my question and reply, if you have an answer. Your replies are irrelevant.

      • Indian says:

        Why most of muslim try to find problem with other religion? If other religion people is pointing problem in your religion you people say it is there in your religion. In this case, how come you people expect others will follow your religion.

        Your religion may be good who cares?

        Why in quaran it is said that no one should not question about nabi and quaran. if anyone does what will happen.

      • Indian says:

        you people could not administrate even a single country. What pakistan is doing now? It is in filthy state now.

        85% married couples have illicit relation. Is this the way of following islam? Try to make your people first behave proper then you can change the world.

  12. arumugam says:

    சவுக்கு -ன் கட்டுரையை தொடர்ந்து நெல்லை மாவட்டத்தில் டாஸ்மாக் ஊழியர்கள் கூட்டம் துணைமேலாளர் தலைமையில் அலுவலகத்தில் நடந்தது. அப்போது தேங்கிகிடக்கும் ,விற்பனையாகாத சரக்குகளை உடனே விற்க்கும்படி ஊழியர்களுக்கு வாய்மொழி உத்தரவு பிறப்பிக்கப்பட்டுள்ளது.

  13. Rubabutheen says:

    மேலே வரும் பிரம்ம புத்திர விவாதம் ஆர்.எஸ்.எஸ்ஸின் பினாமிகள் நடத்தும் டுபாக்கூர் விவாதம் என்பதை சவுக்கு அறிவதாக. இது போல பல பத்திரிகைகலில் கடிதம் எழுதுவது ஒரு தந்திரம். சவுக்கில் இப்போது இந்த தடியர்கள் நுழைந்திருகிறார்கள்.

  14. sadhic says:

    Even before Thiruvalluvar told …. be tamilan first .. rest follows

  15. Learner says:

    @ Brahma putran:

    In your islamic paradise there is rivers of wine for consumption of you good muslims. See quran chapter 47 verse 15.

    47:15. பயபக்தியுடையவர்களுக்கு வாக்களிக்கப்பட்டுள்ள சுவர்க்கத்தின் உதாரணமாவது: அதில் மாறுபடாத தெளிந்த நீரைக் கொண்ட ஆறுகளும், தன் சுவை மாறாத பாலாறுகளும், அருந்துவோருக்கு இன்பமளிக்கும் மது ரச ஆறுகளும், தெளிவான தேன் ஆறுகளும் இருக்கின்றன; இன்னும், அதில் அவர்களுக்கு எல்லா விதமான கனிவகைகளும், தங்கள் இறைவனின் மன்னிப்பும் உண்டு. (இத்தகையோர்) நரகத்தில் எவன் என்றென்றுமே தங்கியிருந்து, கொதிக்கும் நீர் புகட்டப்பட்டு (அதனால்) குடல்களெல்லாம் துண்டு துண்டாகிவிடுமோ அவனுக்கு ஒப்பாவாரா?

    “Madhu rasa aarukal” are available for you muslims in your islamic paradise. To become eligible to enter the islamic paradise the qualification required is doing jihad, that is killing non-muslims.

    Therefore, the best and the only peaceful religion is Islam. We will join it shortly.

    • Learner says:

      So you can drink wine in islamic paradise. This is our point. Islam is not against wine. It is a reward for the jihadi.

      If you can drink wine in your islamic paradise and not in the present world, then it is double standard.

      • Learner says:

        72 virgins and 28 prepubescent boys for unlimited sex in your islamic paradise. There is wine river. After drinking wine your jihadis can have unlimited sex in your islamic paradise.

        Quran 56:35-38

        See the explanations also by your islamic scholars.

      • Learner says:

        Shall we call it a brothel?

      • Learner says:

        Don’t you know the difference between the two?

      • Learner says:

        // Don’t you know the difference between the two? //
        —–

        கோயில் சுவற்றிலே பல்வேறு கோணங்களில் காமசூத்திர லீலைகள்.
        ========
        How do you think i am hindu?

        When I ask about your unlimited sex in your islamic paradise or brothel with 72 virgins and the pre pubescent boys, you limit your answer only to that.

        Don’t try to escape saying “you see this or that”.

        So, you justify your islamic brothel by citing this and that.

        Very good.

  16. Learner says:

    @Brahma putran:

    You are all propagating that islam is for peace.
    You see the following statement from quran and offer your comment how islam is peaceful.

    Quran chapter 9 verse 5:

    9:5. (போர் விலக்கப்பட்ட துல்கஃதா, துல்ஹஜ்ஜு, முஹர்ரம், ரஜபு ஆகிய நான்கு) சங்ககைமிக்க மாதங்கள் கழிந்து விட்டால் முஷ்ரிக்குகளைக் கண்ட இடங்களில் வெட்டுங்கள், அவர்களைப் பிடியுங்கள்; அவர்களை முற்றுகையிடுங்கள், ஒவ்வொரு பதுங்குமிடத்திலும் அவர்களைக் குறிவைத்து உட்கார்ந்திருங்கள் – ஆனால் அவர்கள் (மனத்திருந்தி தம் பாவங்களிலிருந்து) தவ்பா செய்து மீண்டு, தொழுகையையும் கடைப்பிடித்து (ஏழைவரியாகிய) ஜகாத்தும் (முறைப்படிக்) கொடுத்து வருவார்களானால் (அவர்களை) அவர்கள் வழியில் விட்டுவிடுங்கள் – நிச்சயமாக அல்லாஹ் மிக்க மன்னிப்போனாகவும், கிருபையுடையவனாகவும் இருக்கின்றான்.

    Why jihad is must for muslims is explained by Quran in Chapter 9 verse 29.

    9:29. வேதம் அருளப்பெற்றவர்களில் எவர்கள் அல்லாஹ்வின் மீதும், இறுதி நாளின் மீதும் ஈமான் கொள்ளாமலும், அல்லாஹ்வும், அவனுடைய தூதரும் ஹராம் ஆக்கியவற்றை ஹராம் எனக் கருதாமலும், உண்மை மார்க்கத்தை ஒப்புக் கொள்ளாமலும் இருக்கிறார்களோ. அவர்கள் (தம்) கையால் கீழ்ப்படிதலுடன் ஜிஸ்யா (என்னும் கப்பம்) கட்டும் வரையில் அவர்களுடன் போர் புரியுங்கள்.

    Your merciful Allah and Muhammad commands to kill non-muslims just because they are non-muslims. No other reasons are needed.

    Why sunny muslims are not tolerating shia muslims may please be explained by you. You muslims are not tolerating another sect of muslims.

    • Learner says:

      Kafir is the derogatory word against non-muslims.

      Our point is that islam was spread by sword. Convert or else… method.

      Don’t call it a peaceful religion.

      • Learner says:

        You don’t know even to respect others. First you learn to respect others and then you can tell your lies.

  17. Learner says:

    Sahih Muslim: “Drinks, Drinking wine and fermentation”

    Muhammad drank wine. See the following hadith.

    Narrated by Gaber bin Abdullah:

    We were with the messenger of Allah, PBUH and he asked for a drink. One of his men said: “Oh Messenger of Allah, Can we offer you wine to drink?” He said Yes. He (Gaber) went out looking for the drink and came back with a cup of wine. The messenger (Peace Be Upon him) asked, “Have you covered it with a twig in a transverse manner” He (Gaber) said, “Yes” and he (Muhammad) drank.
    Sahih Muslim – Hadith #3753

    • Learner says:

      The above hadith is sahih and was written by your muslim scholar only.
      Do you agree with the above hadith or not?

      Quran has not asked you to grow beard and trim your moustache. But why are you growing beard? It is told in hadith or not?

      You cannot disown the hadiths just because it is not convenient for you now.

      • Learner says:

        You give your explanation for this hadith:

        Sahih Muslim – Hadith #3753

        It is by your islamic scholar only. Is he kafir? Then why are you calling it sahih?

      • Learner says:

        You don’t even know how to respect others.

        The referred hadith is not Sahih Bhukari.

        It is Sahih Muslim.

        In your anger, you are not even seeing the facts furnished.

        As you don’t know how to respect others, I don’t think you are the right person to discuss with.

        When such is the thinking by an ordinary human being, why should your god be cheap in inviting the kafirs for a challenge?
        Like ” oththaikku oththai variyaa?”
        Should it be done by a respectable god?

      • Muralidharan says:

        Dear Mr. Brahma Puthran,

        Please let me know to write in this site in Tamil. I would like to write in Tamil.

        Your references are good and admirable.. Instead of focusing your intellectual vibes in religious conversion and trying to find faults in other religions, you may try to bring in harmony and welfare among people. Good wishes…

  18. vijayaraghavan says:

    Hi viewers, this article has more emotional speech. There exist lot of bad things happening around and hence see that concern too. Now we have to think who is best to rule? existing dravida parties….newly elected central parties… aam admi type of parties…
    I think tamil nadu do not have much choice as delihi had. and the the challenges that party is going to face is much higher than anything…..
    I think let us find a good guy and bring him to front. he need to be supported, encouraged and secured for the saferty of nation, state and people. Thousand year back we lived without much technology. we saved and embraced nature. we have cultivated ourself to think “enough” and share with others…Pon vendam, porul vendam, man vendam.. makkal nalame vendum… who can think and lead the nation….? let us all think this direction so that all the bad, evil ,raakshas guna…. will go off.
    New dawn will begin. let us not think sunrise and green leaves or lotus like flowers or trust the hand.. Even broomstick is not going to clean everythink immediately

  19. Muralidharan says:

    The worldwide perception is that TAMILNADU and BIHAR are the two states where the Government loot the people. The so called Makkal Muthalvar and the filthy lady with her are the two SELFISH – EVIL forces to be eliminated completely. By the by, KARUNANITHI and his sons are all the same – SELFISH EVIL forces. They should also be eliminated.

  20. arumugam says:

    நீங்கள் கூறியது உண்மை.மேலும் சில தகவல்கள். திருநெல்வேலி மாவட்டத்தில் 221 டாஸ்மாக் கடைகள் உள்ளது. இங்கு மாதந்தோறும் ஒரு கடைக்கு 5000 முதல் 10000 வரை மாமுல் வசூலிக்கப்படுகிறது. இதை வசூல் செய்பவர் ஆனந்த் என்கிற டாஸ்மாக் சூப்பர்வைசர். இவர் மாவட்ட டாஸ்மாக் ஊழியர்கள் சங்க செயலாளர். இவர் வசூல்

    செய்யும் பணத்தை தான் ஒரு பகுதியை எடுத்துக்கொண்டு , மாவட்ட மேலாளர், மதுரை மண்டல மேலாளர் மற்றும் சென்னை டாஸ்மாக் தலைமை அலுவலகத்துக்கும் அனுப்பிவைக்கிறார். இது போக ஒரு கடையில் ஒரு மேற்பார்வையாளர் மற்றும் நான்கு விற்பனையாளர்கள் உள்ளனர் . இவர்களின் இடமாறுதலுக்கு கணிசமான தொகை கைமாறுகிறது. உதாரணமாக சென்ற மாதம் முக்கூடல் என்ற இடத்தில் உள்ள கடையில் அணைத்து ஊழியர்கள் தற்காலிக பணிநீக்கம் செய்யப்பட்டனர் . இதற்கு மாற்று ஊழியர்கள் நியமிக்க சுமார் 600000 வாங்கபட்டது. இதெல்லாம் ஒரு sample தான்.

  21. arumugam says:

    நீங்கள் கூறியது உண்மை.மேலும் சில தகவல்கள். திருநெல்வேலி மாவட்டத்தில் 221 டாஸ்மாக் கடைகள் உள்ளது. இங்கு மாதந்தோறும் ஒரு கடைக்கு 5000 முதல் 10000 வரை மாமுல் வசூலிக்கப்படுகிறது. இதை வசூல் செய்பவர் ஆனந்த் என்கிற டாஸ்மாக் சூப்பர்வைசர். இவர் மாவட்ட டாஸ்மாக் ஊழியர்கள் சங்க செயலாளர். இவர் வசூல் செய்யும் பணத்தை தான் ஒரு பகுதியை எடுத்துக்கொண்டு , மாவட்ட மேலாளர், மதுரை மண்டல மேலாளர் மற்றும் சென்னை டாஸ்மாக் தலைமை அலுவலகத்துக்கும் அனுப்பிவைக்கிறார். இது போக ஒரு கடையில் ஒரு மேற்பார்வையாளர் மற்றும் நான்கு விற்பனையாளர்கள் உள்ளனர் . இவர்களின் இடமாறுதலுக்கு கணிசமான தொகை கைமாறுகிறது. உதாரணமாக சென்ற மாதம் முக்கூடல் என்ற இடத்தில் உள்ள கடையில் அணைத்து ஊழியர்கள் தற்காலிக பணிநீக்கம் செய்யப்பட்டனர் . இதற்கு மாற்று ஊழியர்கள் நியமிக்க சுமார் 600000 வாங்கபட்டது. இதெல்லாம் ஒரு sample தான்.

  22. Anonymous says:

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  23. nallavan says:

    //மக்களை மதுவுக்கு அடிமையாக்குவதோடு மட்டுமல்லாமல், தரம் குறைந்த மதுவகைகளை அளித்து, அவர்கள் உடல்நலத்தையும் கெடுக்கும் ஒரு கேவலமான அரசாங்கமாக ஜெயலலிதாவின் அரசு இருந்து வருகிறது.//

    This is first started by Karuna and Vai ko was there with karuna and he never ever raised the concern those days. Nellaikannan clearly documented this one savukku

    • nallavan says:

      world wide KANJA famous in afgan. those people are ugly idiot pee thinni Muslims then?

    • nallavan says:

      mutta pasanga, additchuttu sangada. approam pakisthaan sudukadula Inga oru veenaponavan vandhu anga ooppari vaipppan;

      இஸ்லாமாபாத்: பாகிஸ்தானில் நடந்த தற்கொலை படை தாக்குதலில் 20 பேர் கொல்லப்பட்டனர். 60 க்கும் மேற்பட்டோர் காயமுற்றனர். கடந்த 3 மாதத்தில் நடந்த 3 வது பெரும் தாக்குதல் இதுவாகும். பாகிஸ்தானில் பெஷாவர் ஹயாத்தாபாத் பகுதியில் பிரபல மசூதிகள் உள்ளன. இங்கு வெள்ளிக்கிழமை தொழுகையில் பங்கேற்ற நேரத்தில் இந்த தாக்குதல் நடந்துள்ளது. பல இடங்களில் பயங்கரவாதிகள் பாதுகாப்பு படையினருடன் கையெறி குண்டுகள் வீசி தாக்குதல் நடத்தினர். இதில் முதலில் 10 பேர் இறந்ததாக கூறப்பட்டது. தொடர்ந்து பலி எண்ணிக்கை 20 ஐ தாண்டியுள்ளது. 60 க்கும் மேற்பட்டோர் காயமுற்றனர். சிலர் உயிருக்கு போராடிய நிலையில் அருகில் உள்ள ஆஸ்பத்திரியில் சேர்க்கப்பட்டுள்ளனர்

      • mohammad says:

        You are right. Pakisthaan, sriya, soodan, bangaldesh, afgan muslims are idiot. they don’t know what is ISLAM. I will tell you based on my vast experience, Hindu religion is best on in the world. you guys are lucky in the world…

    • Anonymous says:

      அட லூசு பயலே எப்படிடா

      • nallavan says:

        yaru kanja kuduki nabiya? avana kelu? enkitta ketta? convert panumpodhu ellathyaurm parkanum. oc ila panathukku soram pona??

  24. nallavan says:

    savuku sankar
    you have critic everybody. but swamy filled case perfectly and gurumoorthy aslo. why you guys not at all doing any job? you are writing writing writing why don’t you file a case against them showing all prof in court. if anybody file then again you do ugly job citric the same people.

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